How do you set up your handlebar angle?

I have my handlebars set up very “Uniquely”. No one i have ridden with has set up their handlebars approx the same angle as mine and it makes me wonder. Obviously personal preference is one of the reasons why handlebars are set up usually at the angle they are but i do also believe for a lot of us it was set there by default and left there by default as we “learnt” to adapt to it.

Below are some of my reasoning for why a more backwards rotated angle might be better for you and your riding. Keep in mind that is what i think and i respect if you have tried both a forward and backwards rotated angle but if you haven’t you owe it to yourself to at least try!

To help with explaining this topic i have devised some rudimentary drawings to help. Please don’t laugh. Especially you Jarod with your cad programmes and all -_-

I present with you diagram 1 drawn in good ol ms paint *holy crap ms paint has crappy compression, how did it compress it to gain artifacts around what i have drawn??*.

This is a dissected side on view of what your handlebar looks like clamped to the stem. The bottom circle is where your stem clamps the handlebar and the top circle shows the handlebar angle. I have noticed a lot of people with a set up that is resembling the rotated forwards version whilst not many with the rotated backwards version.

Now in diagram 2 i gained a bit of confidence in using ms paint and have extended my illustration to include the head tube and the fork. The general guide that is prevalent tells us that the angle of the rise of the handlebar should correspond generally with your fork angle. So as you can see the handlebar in the diagram is set up to line up similarly to the fork angle. If you asked me what the logic of this was, id tell you i have NFI. But like my original point i think it is the right way to do it. Why?

Manufactures designed handlebars with backsweep. Back when we were all riding rigid bikes and so forth the handlebars used to be just a flat stick. As things evolved more and more we began to see backsweep on our handlebars. Most handlebars now days have backsweep to the angle of 7-9 degrees. The natural angle of our hands when held up in front of us isn’t a straight line. If there was a pole in front of us and we held up both of our arms to hold the pole it would be uncomfortable for a long period. Now if the pole had some backsweep and was pointing backwards towards the end it would instantly feel more comfortable. This is amongst a similar idea to ergonomic keyboards.

This is the reason why i think having the handlebar rotated in line with the fork angle is the best approach. By doing so you make sure you utilise the maximum amount of backsweep on the handlebars and hence provide a much comfortable resting angle for your arms. When handlebars are rotated forwards it eliminates a lot of the backsweep and you have to wonder, why did manufactures design backsweep for if your bar angle is going to take away half of that?

Like i said earlier it is a personal thing but if you find your bars rotated forwards like what i have drawn in diagram 1 and you have not tried riding with your handlebars rotated in line with your fork angles then at least try it. If you dislike it you can always message me and tell me how much of a failure this post is.


Last night to this morning

UCI road worldcup is on! I was pleasantly surprised when i was channel surfing and found it on channel One. The real guns are however appearing today though as yesterdays was just U23 and females. Watching the females race made me wonder why TDF has not incorporated a female race on the side.  I thought the feminists would be onto them for sure! We have female XC and DH racing but just not Elite level roadie? Anyone care to explain?

Hopped on the trainer this morning and although sore *i am always sore these days* i found it noticeably easier to push the big ring on the hardest resistance setting than previously. I gotta remember to bring my HR though because it does help quite a bit with letting me know what’s going on inside myself.

Now i am at work and i am eating this sandwich. Jam/Bananas/avacado sandwiched by multigrain bread. It tastes better than it might look/sound.

Ibis project fit

A few things to do to help me get acquainted. It has real potential!

1. Figure out optimised stem height
2. Move saddle backwards
3. Fiddle with shock pressure more front and back
4. Retune rear derailleur, shifter too hard to shift into biggest gear


Passions, everyone has them. Towards the early stages it might just be a flirt with a certain idea dwelling in your head but eventually it grows and grows and grows. It grows so much that you end up incorporating it into part of your life. Sometimes, it even incorporates itself onto other people close to yourself.

At one stage once you are deep deep into the tunnel you look backwards and find it almost amusing how deep you have come. Yet (if your chosen passion isn’t anything too self destructive), we smile a little with a hint of self acknowledgement and acceptance and get right back to digging that tunnel.

Sometimes it isn’t all sweet flashbacks and fuzzy images as you will be tested by your true passions and dedication. Sometimes multiple passions intertwine with each other and you have an inner battle trying to allocate time to each of them.

As always though you come together with a community of like minded people and you feel like you belong. Partly because you share a similar passion, mostly because you understand each others dedication, suffering, pain, happiness and exhilaration.

Passions, everyone has them. Everyone needs them.

Couldn’t wait

I know i twittered that i am going to ride appin on Friday but i just could not help myself. Slept early yesterday and woke up and  grabbed the mojo out for the virgin ride.

Timmy rocked up after i finished my 1st lap which was a surprise and we tagged together for my second lap. Near the end of the second lap we ran into Grant who was taking two other riders on a reverse loop. Great weather for a ride today! It was overcast as well so it was just the right temp.

Now, how did the ibis ride? It rode very well obviously but i didn’t bond with it straight away like i did with the yeti. Something to do with the positioning of the stem and the saddle. I felt like i couldn’t put enough weight on the tall front end and hence the front wasn’t biting as much as it should *second lap saw me dropping the stem which helped slightly*. I also feel fairly cramped and noticed my saddle is pretty forward on its rails which doesn’t allow me to move on the bike all that much. Makes me feel kinda frigid and unflowy is what i am trying to get at.

Having said that it was still fast in the technical stuff. Obviously with 160mm of travel it ought to be. With more travel it makes technical stuff a lot easier. I noticed on rougher climbs the mojo just climbs it like it’s smooth. No picking lines required. Straight up. You can even sit down all the way for maximum traction whilst you power right up. Even with 160mm of travel when you stand up it feels very taught. But it still has a lot of small bump compliance. Kinda like a mix between vpp and maestro. Maestro was very plush but bobbed a little more and vpp isn’t as plush but was tighter under pedalling power. DW is kinda like a mix of those two. So yeah it is a pretty good suspension system for sure.

I just need to get comfy on the bike and then we will get along like asians and rice. Hope you don’t mind me leaning my mojo against your rear tyre for the photo Grant :p

Edit :: The bike is very quiet. I think it is the chain retention device more than the suspension.

Dining for 6

Finally took all the stuff off the dining table yesterday and cleaned it up. Sits 6 comfortably and looks snazzy. I particularly love how comfy the chairs are as our massive book shelf is right opposite to the dining table. What this means is the dining table can double as a reading/work desk if needs be.

We also received our Ikea family cards in the mail yesterday. Pretty snazzy card too with a frost finish.

I am going to stop playing SCII

After seeing this video nothing makes sense to me anymore. LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Remember to eat your greens!

Further question in the style of that service/price question. Would you pay at least double the price for organic food?

We has the Internet, well almost

As you might remember i made a post about Internet plans here. Well we locked ourselves in with TPG in the end. You just can’t beat the price. Apparently they just updated their plans and we ended up getting in on what they call the “unlimited” plan. I am not sure if there are hidden terms and conditions as to their meaning of “unlimited” but it most likely is more than we can ever use. Hopefully the network is pretty good around our area and doesn’t bring me any trouble as talking to TPG support over the phone is the last thing i want to do in my spare time. This also brings me to another topic. How much do you guys value price vs service? Are you really really really willing to pay a little extra for service vs price in almost all situations?

Once our net is installed we will migrate our two computers over and i guess that is pretty much one of the final parts of the moving process. I also have my whole room to clean out but i rather not think about that for now.

Bike nights

Another one coming up soon in prep for scott 24hr! Can’t wait. For ppl that dont know it is basically a night where you get together and do bike related shenanigan. Usually things go terribly wrong only to be fixed at the last minute before the end of the night!